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20 August 2006 Chatmag Editorial.

For the past few years, Chatmag has warned about the online renegade vigilante groups operating primarily in Yahoo! Chat. Perverted Justice is the leading group, with other smaller groups and individuals acting as undercover “police”. These groups set up stings to capture alleged predators.

Over the past few months, legitimate law enforcement agencies have moved into Yahoo! Chat, doing much the same sting type operations as the vigilante groups. In addition to law enforcement, several media outlets, most notably Dateline NBC, have conducted televised “busts”.

Chatters enter the Yahoo! chat rooms, primarily the Regional Adult rooms, and either seek out or are solicited by what appears to be underage girls. In the case of law enforcement, they cannot initiate a conversation, but must allow the alleged predator to make the first contact. In the case of the vigilante groups, they are not bound by legalities, and in many cases make first contact. The vigilante groups are also known to post false photographs on their Yahoo! profiles, using pictures of underage girls to further entrap the alleged predators.

In all cases, a real life, offline meeting is set up between what appears to be a young girl and the alleged predator. This meeting takes the conversation from online fantasy to a real life nightmare for the alleged predator.

What I see as the real danger of Yahoo! Chat is not law enforcement or vigilante groups, but the idiocy of the alleged predators. First off, thinking that one is anonymous on the Internet is completely wrong. No matter where one is on the Internet, logs are kept. The Internet Service Provider has the log when a client first signs in. Yahoo! Chat logs each I.P number. Both of these logs can be subpoenaed by a court to be used as evidence.

There is some legal debate as to the admissibility of chat logs in a court proceeding, however, other logs as mentioned can be used against a person. Anonymity on the Internet does not exist. Even using an anonymiser, a good investigator can eventually track a user back to their source.

Setting up a meeting in person, or giving someone a telephone number removes all hope of remaining anonymous. The courts look at intent as a component of a crime, and meeting in person satisfies most courts as to intent, without a lot of “wiggle room” for a defense.

I was asked last year to consult in one such case, where an alleged predator was apprehended after a sting by Federal law enforcement officials. The now convicted predator had chatted with an undercover officer online, and his father requested my assistance.

I had advised the father to have the son’s computer diagnosed by a forensics expert, in order to determine if any unknown trojans, key loggers or worms were installed that may of changed chat logs without the sons knowledge.

The father seemed reluctant to discuss the computer issue, and at the time offered no explanation. I later learned that the father had taken the son’s computer out in the woods, bashing it with a sledge hammer. In essence, the father destroyed the son’s only possible defense. In taking that action, the father inadvertently demonstrated to the court that the son had “something to hide”, which contributed to the son’s conviction.

A computer holds more information than the average user realizes. Sites visited, chat logs, downloaded programs and images are all there and can be accessed by competent forensics experts. The best defense is not putting yourself into a position where your computer activities can be used against you in a court of law. Plain and simple, don't be stupid. There are plenty of adults online, find one and keep yourself out of trouble.

To sum up:

1. You are not anonymous on the Internet.

2. Law enforcement agencies are operating in Yahoo! Chat.

3. Renegade vigilante groups are operating in Yahoo! Chat.

4. Media is operating in Yahoo! Chat, seeking to boost ratings at your expense.

5. Yahoo! Chat, Adult section, is for adults, not underage persons. Never assume everyone is an adult, and avoid any private conversations with anyone claiming to be underage.

6. NEVER set up a meeting, or give a telephone number to anyone underage.

7. Do not transmit any photographs or web cam shots to anyone alleging to be underage.

8. DO NOT BE AN IDIOT. Your freedom is not worth it. If you believe chatting with an underage person is a thrill, chances are you will have years in prison to remember the experience.

--Chatmag Editorial--

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